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~Blasphemy~



Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:43 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

i disagree. I suggest that you review each member with rcon. I'll admit i i was wrong about 2 players i have banned, otherwise i too agree that there is way to much banning going on, without conclusive proof. from now on Rince has the final say on who stays banned.

If the player is blatantly hacking, but you feel that something is fishy just say and do the following:

"NAME - You have been recorded under suspicion of using hacks. You video will be reviewed pending permanent ban. Visit anti.myfastforum.org to appeal your ban.

We need to start getting IPs, therefore it saves us from changed names. If Rince finds the person in question guilty. SiC has to ban the IP adress altogether.  Like I said, we need to start doing things a littel differently.
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A.T.O.M.



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

siC - i assume you're a server admin?

as a former server admin i can tell you this: if i gave rcon/ban rights, even to some of the long time members of the server i used to run, i think our community would've been cut in half Smile

it was only when folks realized who some of the better players were and got to know them that they quit crying "hacker" and realized they were simply out classed.  of course some didn't want to admit that, and so the accusations flew.

i hope slink is notified if you feel an error has been made.

sorry for jumping in on this, but i have a habit of standing up for what i think is right, and i think slink was in the clear.  that's all i'll say.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple solution:
Dont ban
Record a video, post it,
Ill check it out and make the call. Not sure how i became qualified but I've never had a call questioned yet, and those that know me know how hesitant i am if im not 100% certain of a hack.
This could allow people to hack on our server for a few hours perhaps, but it's a small price to pay to drop all this bollocks every other day.
The one exception i'd be happy to allow is the ultra-obvious aimbot, where through smoke / water / extreme distance - crosshair is instantly on a headshot lock.  There can be no mistaking this kind of cheating, its too damn obvious. Bans for this are fine.
Any thoughts?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sic, just say the word and its done. I am getting a little tired of this as well.
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S0LIDARITY



Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Location: Wilkes Barre or Sparta NY

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you guys disagree, I think the blame is on me. I recorded and spec'd, I told Gun$ I was sure of the hacks and he placed the ban based on my word.
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~Blasphemy~



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solid, it doesn't matter how certain YOU are. It all depends on the person in charge of that specific department. Rince you got the position because you have the sharpest eye when it comes to hackers, in my opinion at least. Like i said before, we need to to post the -->IP ADDRESS<-- of the accused player, which makes it easier to pb or unban as necessary. As I play more I realize, with watching my own crosshair, that just because the crosshair lands and stays on an enemy doesn't mean he's hacking, it means he's completely in control of his character, and knows how to shoot. Unless it is a hack with no denial whatsoever(blatant crosshair movement from one enemy to another, we cannot and should not accuse that player of hacking. The amount of accusations lately has made me sick. I myself have made mistakes yes, but i have realized the difference and if anyone has noticed, been extremely less judgemental of hacker accusations.
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GUn$



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

clan members, slink and A.T.O.M i am sry if i made the wrong call it is not due to being jealous or being afraid of slink's skills that i made the call the only reason i did it was as i said before there were many questionable shots that you made slink and i am sorry if u are a truly good player but on the server we get more haxorz then we get legtimately good players so i hope that the p ban can be taken awayand that everyone can forgive me for my innaccurate call this is my first innaccurate call that i have ever made. I just hope that all can forgive in this incident and i hope that slink and A.T.O.M will come back on so i can improve my skills by playing with them.
GUn$
P.S sic i am sorry for bringing yet again another foul call to the server. And i would be more then happy of being given the honor of unbanning slink for my poor judgement.
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siC



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guys, this is what i do. i see an awesome player, and i go into spec thinking that it's not an aimbot. when i spec them, every time they get a kill i think about that kill. i think long and hard, and i try to convince myself that it's not a hack. with nonhackers, its easy to convince myself, but with hackers i have a hard time.
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FaNtM



Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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Location: B.C canada

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what i do is when a fishy person makes a kill, i think of every reason to prove that person isnt hacking based on their environment, what they had, and wat the enemy had. if a person makes a headshot w/ a g36, i say, well, maybe he was camping, or maybe he has a silencer and he is a good shot. maybe he got lucky and shot me in the ass. i dont know. but if something seems really bullshit like shooting people the instant their hand comes around the corner catches my eye, and thats when i watch them and see if i think they are up to something.

we should re-evaluate people about their rcon usage. sometimes people are really good players, and they have a high mouse sensitivity like i do. if you think someone is hacking, get another clan member so you dont end up making a mistake.


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